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P.J. MALHERBE

Swedish rifle with a moving chamber mechanism made by P. J. Malherbe.

Caliber 14.85 mm.

Most of these rifles were manufactured in Sweden, only a small number, at least a hundred, it seems, since this one bears the number 97) comes from P.J. Malherbe et Cie, 25, quai Saint-Léonard in Liège, registered at the proofhouse of Liège between 1850 and 1869 (at the same address was registered P.J. Malherbe, registered at the proofhouse of Liège between 1836 and 1850).

The date of manufacture does not appear on Malherbe rifles, which is the case for rifles made in Sweden.

The GvA marking on the stock corresponds to Gustaf Magnus von Arbin, born in 1818 and inspecting officer at the Carl Gustav rifle factory in Eskilstuna, Sweden.

P.J. MALHERBE

Malherbe (Pierre Joseph) known as “de Goffontaine” (entity of Pepinster (Verviers)) and Malherbe Philippe Joseph (or Malherbe son or Malherbe & Co) are the same (big) firm. In 1807, Pierre Joseph Malherbe de Goffontaine had 3 manufactures and after the fall of the French regime, it repurchases with the son of Gosuin manufactures quay St-Léonard in Liege and of Chaudfontaine (in addition to his).

According to the datings of the weapons (flint - percussion) it could be possible to differentiate the P.J., but the name “de Goffontaine” is generally allotted to Pierre Joseph.

HPH

P.J. MALHERBE

Il s’agit d’un fusil à percussion fabriqué par P.J. Malherbe, artisan bien répertorié sur le site, où l’on trouvera des descriptions d’armes voisines de celle-ci.

Marquages : PJ Malherbe & Cie à Liège sur la platine, ovale ELG et numéro 672 sur le côté gauche du canon, monogrammé (HL ou JH selon le sens de lecture…).

Chris

P.J. MALHERBE

Here is a very nice percussion rifle probably intended for precision shooting, made by P.J. Malherbe.

The weapon has a luxurious finish, with fine engravings on the metallic parts, a trigger guard with two fingerrests and a hammer in the shape of a fishhead. The marine-inspired decoration is completed by a shell-shaped primer tank on the butt. This last motif is recalled on the front of the gun under the barrel.

The aiming of the weapon for precision shooting is attested by the "target" type sights, as well as by a stetcher trigger.

The only identifiable marking on the photos is “P.J. Malherbe & Cie à Liège” on the lock.

Chris

P.J. MALHERBE

P.J. Malherbe percussion pistol

Here is a beautiful percussion gun from the production of P.J. Malherbe.

Markings:

P.J. Malherbe à Liége (with acute accent) on the lock.

W under crown on lock and barrel on right side.

Oval ELG left side barrel.

On both sides of the barrel: JB under crown (left side), S under crown (right side).

Chris

P.J. MALHERBE

Here is a copy of the Swedish 1851 rifle with a movable chamber mechanism. It was designed by Swedish lieutenant August Gustaf Reinhold von Feilitzen, who was inspired by a Norwegian rifle.

Other examples can be seen in the Museum of the Swedish Navy in Karlskrona.

On land, on water, for real! (marinmuseum.se)

https://digitaltmuseum.org/021028282427/kammarladdningsgevar

Calibre 14. 85 mm, six stripes at 1/213. 8 cm pitch.

Most of these rifles were manufactured in Sweden, only a small number at least a hundred it seems since this copy bears the number 97) come from the house of P. J. Malherbe et Cie, 25, quai Saint-Léonard in Liège, registered with the Liège proofhouse between 1850 and 1869 (at the same address was registered P. J. Malherbe et Cie., registered in the proofhouse of Liège between 1836 and 1850).

The date of manufacture does not appear on Malherbe’s rifles, which is the case for Swedish-made rifles.

The GvA marking on the stock corresponds to Gustaf Magnus von Arbin, born in 1818 and inspection officer at the Carl Gustav rifle factory in Eskilstuna, Sweden.

During the search, a member of the team found a patent filed by a certain Edouard Malherbe (I don’t know if he was related or not to P. J. Malherbe): it is the No. 4433 of 21 May 1857 which has very strong similarities with this Swedish rifle. Here it is, by way of illustration. Not having followed the courses of the Liege Armoury School, I am not able to spot the differences.

Finally, several members of the team made a match with a Decortis rifle, which also bears similarities to the P.J. Malherbe rifle.

In fact, thanks to the sagacity of a member of the team who consulted Mathieu Willemsen’s monumental book, “Experiment en beproeving: vuurwapens van de Normaal Schietschool (1855-1933) “, it turns out that the Norwegian Model 1846 infantry rifle was the first to be used which has been used as a base falls under the Scheel system. But the web is silent about this person.

On the other hand, the website Norwegian military small-arms & blades » M1842 Army Kammerlader (norskevaapen.no) provides a lot of information about Norwegian Army weapons. Thus we learn that the 1846 model is in fact an improvement of the 1842 model. It should be noted in passing that Francotte produced 100 copies of 1842.

Mathieu Willemsen – who mentions the number of 1,500 copies of the 1846 model ordered from Francotte, also points out that Francotte has subcontracted part of the order to Gilles Decortis! This explains the copies signed Decortis.

GP with the help of Max, the whole team, Andreas Ohlsson and Per-Erik Stenborg from the Karlskrona museum.

P.J. MALHERBE

Il s’agit d’un fusil PATTERN ENFIELD 1853.

Il a été fabriqué à Liège comme en témoignent les poinçons du banc d’épreuves liégeois relevés sur l’arme, à savoir :

ELG* dans un ovale vertical : acceptation définitive, en usage de 1846 à 1893.

Perron : acceptation définitive, en usage de 1853 à nos jours.

K et M couronnés : contremarques des contrôleurs, en usage de 1853 à 1877. 

Pour les autres marquages cela devient compliqué de départager les marques liégeoises des marques étrangères.

D’après le propriétaire L.S.M. signifierait "LOUISANIA STATE MILITIA" Cette arme aurait donc été utilisée par la milice de la Louisiane, elle a vraisemblablement ajouté quelques poinçons d’acceptation à cette arme mais lesquels ??

La marque ronde imprimée sur la crosse (PHL si bien lu , dans un cercle) pourrait être les initiales de Philippe Joseph MALHERBE, fabricant d’armes à LIEGE quai Saint Léonard de 1850 à 1865 mais je n’en ai pas la certitude absolue ?

Les autres marques telles que JJ NH JS JH couronné – FH couronné – lettre grecque Xi sont vraisemblablement les marques des sous-traitants liégeois ayant participés à la création de cette arme. Aucune liste fiable de ces sous-traitants n’a cependant été conservée.

Désolé de ne pouvoir être plus précis !

GG

 

P.J. MALHERBE

It’s a cavalry pistol of type 16/22 I think. This weapon was manufactured in Liège in 1831 by the manufacturer Philipe J. Malherbe. It is a copy of the 1922 French cavalry pistol although the dimensions and shape are somewhat different. The pistol is 0m3519, the barrel is round, the thunder has 5 sides, the "capucine" is made of brass. The cap is also made of brass is equipped with an iron ring.

This model was intended for the “great cavalry” because the mouthpiece was pierced to receive a rod with a nail head and a threaded end. It was undoubtedly one of the very first pistols produced for the Belgian cavalry.

It bears a hallmark of the Liège proofhouse, namely:

ELG* in a vertical oval: definitive acceptance, in use from 1818 to 1893  (Five-pointed star!)

The weapon also bears the following markings:

P.J. Malhebe à Liège: brand of the Liège manufacturer.

GB in a lying oval: mark of the Belgian government indicating that it is state property.

Circle on the butt: showing GB (Belgian government) 1831 (year of manufacture), AW  (Inspector’s initials. I don’t know about the other brands.

ID*: meaning unknown, its origin is probably military.

S.D: same.

HF crowned: it is probably a subcontractor of Malherbe?

T.R.: Unknown?

GG

P.J. MALHERBE

It is a percussion rifle comprising a percussion plate and its outer hammer. The round barrel is equipped with a cursor viewfinder and a rectangular back sight. The trigger is curved under a round bridge. The butt seems to me to be made of walnut shaped in the "English" way. A metal rod is slid under the barrel. The counterplate consists of a simple metal bar fixed by 2 screws. The articulated arm asks me about its functioning not visible in the photos.

If I’m mistaken, this gun doesn’t bear any proof mark?

The manufacturer is Philippe-Joseph Malherbe installed in the former imperial factory 25 quai Saint Léonard in Liège.

He was enrolled on the Liège proofhouse from 1836 to 1850.

He was then followed by P.J. Malherbe & Cie at the same address from 1850 to 1869.

In 1862, the activity was taken over by Malherbe Prosper!

GG

P. J. MALHERBE (montage ?)

Here is what seems to me to be a "composite" rifle (not to say "milking rifle"), made up of various and varied elements....including a lock signed P. J. Malherbe.

The stock certainly does not date from the first half of the 19th century...

There could be punches on or under the barrel.

There's been a lot of Malherbe.

This PJ Malherbe was registered at the proofhouse of Liège from 1836 to 1850 (which corresponds to the lock).

It was established at 25 quai Saint Léonard in Liège.

GP

P.J. MALHERBE & Cie

Percussion rifle of calibre .58.

Back sight with different distance 200/400/600, brass barley grain. Percussion breech with smooth plate bearing the name “PJ Malherbe Cie à Liège.”

Walnut stock with cheek rest and steel buttplate.

It carries a regimental or armory stamp, see photo.

Pierre Joseph Malherbe, 1822-1867 (Stöckel 2, p. 835) Total length: 134 cm, barrel length: 94.5 cm.

P.J. MALHERBE

Here a short weapon (rifle or snap hook) of manufacture of Liège since well signed PJ Malherbe on the lock. There are also punches from the Liège Proofhouse.

A weapon steeped in history since, according to its lucky American owner, it has been in his family since 1863, when his great-great-grandfather brought it back as a "souvenir" from the Battle of Gettysburg.

It has an undeniable family resemblance with the French weapons of 1853, 1857, 1859 etc. : back plate, typical hammer shape, a grenadière and a mouthpiece. Missing the rod. Rail for fixing a bayonet sword. The rising may not be of origin.

According to the lucky owner, the barrel, with an approximate diameter of . 47, is not/no longer rifled, which is surprising to say the least.

It also seems to me that there is a "problem" with the hammer's spring: I want as proof the “hole” in the platter, where the nipple of the spring of the hammer should keep it in the platter.

Markings

ELG on star in oval: acceptance between 1846 and 1893;

Peron: inspection since 1853;

V under crown: countermark of a controller between 1853 and 1877;

M under crown: perhaps a mark of PJ Malherbe or a countermark of a controller between 1853 and 1877?

JH under crown on rise and lock: unidentified.

PJ Malherbe was one of the most important exporters of Liège arms to North America during the Civil War, as it appears from the study carried out by Prof. Francis Balace on the Liège armory during that period.

GP with the assistance of CP and PHL.

P.J. MALHERBE

Percussion riffle MALHERBE

It acts of a single shot gun, with percussion lock known as "retrograde" or back lock.

P.J. MALHERBE quay Saint Léonard in Liege, manufacturer well-known in Liege, it was registered with the house of tests of 1836 to 1869.

GG

P.J.Malherbe

Snap hook of cavalry mod.1822 Manufactured since 1834 in Liege by the industry deprived for the Belgian light cavalry, derived from the snap hook of French cavalry model 1822.

Line out model 1834 (without the fastening screw of the model 1822.) Transformed into percussion from 1840 Overall length 0,879 m weight 2,400 kg gauges 17,1 mm.

Christian

The mark on the lock belongs to P.J. MALHERBE manufacturer of weapons in Liege quay St Léonard, 25 (Bench of test of Liege: 1836/1869)

GG

Many thanks to Christian for the photos and the technicals details

P.J. Malherbe

Many thanks to the "ROYAL ARMY MUSEUM" Bruxelles for the pictures.

(N° identification : F159 Collection of "Comte de Ribaucourt")

P.J. Malherbe

Manufactured fort he Sweden navy.

Photos "MUSEE ROYAL DE L' ARMEE - BRUXELLES" with my grateful thanks.

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