Some of the most beautiful work of this craftsman, and many others, are in this book “Liège Gunmakers through their Work. 1800 - 1950”.

For more detail see: LIEGE GUNMAKERS

Under all reserves!!


Rifle to percussion whose chimney seems placed at the center of the breech.

It has a rise with cursor. The rod indicates that it is a weapon to be charged by the mouth. It’s all that the photographs reveal.

Spangled punch ELG in an oval indicates a manufacture between 1846 and 1893.

Does mark P&CE BREVETES leave me in the expectancy!?

The only assumption of valid manufacturer in time (1860/1870) is company PAHAUT (Albert) & CARMANNE (L) registered with the proof house of tests of Liege of 1863 to 1866.

In 1866, the company repurchases the activity of PAHAUT Albert and becomes CARMANNE & PIRON.

CARMANNE L separates from PIRON and remains registers with proof house of Liège until 1867.

Who’s Who does not announce any patent filling by this company what leaves doubts about the exactitude of the assumption.


Many thanks to the "ROYAL ARMY MUSEUM" Bruxelles and especially the section "ARMES PORTATIVE".

(N° identification : F163/188sup Collection of "Comte de Ribaucourt")