Some of the most beautiful work of this craftsman, and many others, are in this book “Liège Gunmakers through their Work. 1800 - 1950”.

For more detail see: LIEGE GUNMAKERS

PIRLOT Frères

Here is a beautiful revolver pinfire well signed E. Lefaucheux Inv. Patented. Round barrel, probably 9 or 12 mm; the barrel seems to me to have been bronzed. Handle with bush, cap ring.

The markings

Number 11288 on the grips and cylinder, while there is a 32955 on the left side of the lock... strange...

GC: A comptroller's countermark, between 1853 and 1877.

JC on the frame: not identified;

B or R in a circle: not identified.

We can also see what could be a PF crowned in a circle, but the crown is not centered. Of course, we quickly think of PIRLOT Frères. (I rule out PIRLOT and FRESART - which succeeded PIRLOT Frères - since they started in 1879; however, this revolver is - almost certainly - predates 1879. In any case, they signed PIRLOT & FRESART).

Now, we see 1° that the crown is centered on the PF and 2° that it surmounts an oval. The (normal) crowned PF punch of PIRLOT Frères was actually in an oval.

Other PIRLOT Frères weapons with either the PIRLOT Frères signature or the crowned oval punch (the crown is centered above the two letters) can also be seen on the site (identified artisans and exceptional collection).

He thinks he’s a real PIRLOT Frères, but whose punch was badly struck on a Monday morning after a Sunday that was too watered... I don’t agree with that proposition, especially because the crown is not centered (the punch is badly struck/incomplete). But maybe I’m wrong...

So I wonder... is this either a marking that has not yet been listed, or is it an attempt at “fraud”?

The mystery remains...

 

Rocour on the cylinder : this surname has already been extensively mentioned on the site :

http://littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20q%20r/a%20rocour%20fr.htm

It could be the first mentioned, ROCOUR B.

Concerning E. LEFAUCHEUX in Liège, see the site under that name, not only the survey, but also the next section, and also the exceptional collection.

GP with the help of HPH, PHL and Chris.

PIRLOT Frères

Here is a classic Lefaucheux nickel-plated open frame revolver, in caliber 12 mm from PIRLOT Fréres 1836-1879 (later PIRLOT & FRESART, active until 1890), already mentioned extensively on the site and in the exceptional collection.

Many well-known gunsmiths have had guns manufactured at PIRLOT Fréres in Liege.

Few markings: the ELG punch on star in oval (acceptance between 1846 and 1893), a V under crown, countermark from a controller (between 1853 and 1877) and a B in a circle (unidentified).

GP with the help of HPH.

PIRLOT Frères

This is a classic pinfire revolver of indeterminate caliber, whatever. Superior quality given the engravings.

We see, it seems to me, the initials PF under the barrel; we also see on the barrel a PF crowned in a circle: we know a PF crowned in an oval, which is a trademark registered by Pirlot & Frésart, rue St-Gilles 95 in Liège on 13/06/1888.

But there is no trace of a crowned PF in a circle that would be a trademark of Pirlot Frères, registered in the proofhouse of Liège from 1836 to 1879.

It was certainly renewed at the time of the partnership between Gustave Pirlot and Edouard Frésart in 1888. In any case, it seems to me unlikely that this revolver was after 1888 (in principle even 1877, see below).

The brand E. Lefaucheux Inv. Bvté means that royalties have been paid for the use of the Lefaucheux system.

A crowned EL theoretically means that Eugène Lefaucheux's factory in Liège contributed to the manufacture of this weapon. (even the cylinder only?)

As for the crowned IS: mystery and gumball.

There is also a crowned G, the countermark of a controller of the Liège proofouse, applied between 1853 and 1877. And the classic ELG star in oval, for acceptance between 1846 and 1893.

GP with HPH

Pirlot Frères

Rare copy of a Winchester model 1866 saddle ring carbine made by Pirlot Frères of Liège, Belgium in saddle scabbard.

Cal. 44 CF. 20″ bbl. Blue finish.

Right side of receiver is marked “Pirlot Frères à Liège”.

Lever has a very small loop and hammer has very coarse checkering.  Stocks are straight grained dark European walnut with a crescent gun metal buttplate.

Saddle scabbard has remnants of hanging straps and a clear cartouche on right side.  Cartouche reads "E.T. Amonett maker El Paso, Texas".

A extremely rare copy of a 66 Winchester saddle ring carbine that could definitely have seen service during Mexican Revolution.

Pirlot Frères

Here is a percussion rifle of the military type (or at least for military purposes) from the firm Pirlot Frères.

Markings:

Pirlot Frères in Liège on the lock.

Oval ELG on the left side of the barrel.

1SHIC.3C.56. on the left side of the barrel and 1SHIC.3C.245. on the bayonet.

Capital M under crown in several places of the weapon.

Chris

Pirlot Frères

Pirlot Frères percussion pistols

A trio of percussion pistols made by Pirlot Frères (1st half 19th century).

These weapons were presumably “regulatory” in some Germanic or Nordic states.

They are stamped Pirlot Frères à Liège on the lock, and one of the copies is registered B24.

HPH et Oscar

Pirlot Frères

Il s’agit à mon humble avis d’un fusil d’infanterie transformé. La lumière du canon a été bouchée, une cheminée vissée à même le tonnerre, le chien d’origine remplacée par un modèle à percussion. Les pièces extérieures de la platine ont été supprimées et les trous de vis bouchés. La crosse en noyer est façonnée à l’anglaise avec un enfoncement pour le visage. Le canon rond et lisse (calibre ??) est maintenu par trois brassadelles. Une baguette métallique est fixée sous le canon. La contre platine à 2 vis est en forme de L.

L’arme porte le poinçon liégeois du banc d’épreuves belge ELG* dans un ovale vertical signifiant l’acceptation de l’arme. Ce poinçon a été utilisé de 1818 à 1893.

L’arme porte également les marques suivantes :

EB couronné (si bien lu ?) il pourrait s’agir de la marque du fabricant de canons de fusils Ernest Bertrand.

PF dans un ovale (sur le bois) : en toute hypothèse il pourrait s’agir de la marque de fabrique de Pirlot Frères à Liège. Inscrits au banc d’épreuves de 1836 à 1879.

H et L dans un cercle : ce type de marquage n’était pas courant à Liège. Il m’est inconnu. Il pourrait peut-être s’agir de poinçons d’acceptation de l’unité suisse ayant réceptionné l’arme ?

GG

Il s’agit d’un fusil modèle 1817 d’infanterie, de voltigeur, ou bien encore de chasseur militaire.

Cette arme a été conçue et fabriquée au départ chez nous.

Elle a été modifiée à percussion (Vers 1842/1855), la modification n’est absolument pas conforme à l’ordonnance suisse.

Cette modification pourrait avoir été faite par un armurier du canton de Zürich et je pense pour la chasse, car la hausse a été supprimée. Ce qui n’est jamais le cas sur les armes modèles 1817/1842 militaires.

Je pense que le marquage "G LUZERN 364" est l’ancien marquage militaire du canton de Luzern, mais ce que je trouve anormal c’est qu’il n’y a pas, du moins apparemment, le poinçon cantonal.

Normalement il était obligatoire de marquer les canons des initiales du fabricant, mais elles devaient toujours se trouver sous le canon.

Max

Pirlot Frères

Pirlot Frères

Performed to this cleaning I found the PF flag with a crown. Pirlot Freres

Jose Luis

Pirlot Frères

This is a two-shot piston pocket pistol. Presumably smooth barrels are arranged on "table". In addition to the two hammers, the percussion system consists of two removable loading cylinders marked 1 and 2. These are removed from the device for loading. The weapon has two triggers, one straight and the other curve allowing you to fire barrel after barrel! A notch system is placed above the cannons in front of the hammers. The walnut stock is probably smooth and rounded.

The weapon bears the two marks of the Liège proofhouse, namely:

ELG* in a vertical oval: definitive acceptance in use from 1846 to 1893.

G crowned: Controller’s countermark, in use from 1853 to 1877.

It also bears the trademark Pirlot Frères brevetés (patented) in a lying oval. These armourers are well known in the Liège armoury. They were active from 1836 to 1879 and filed 5 patents for inventions. Unfortunately, I did not find the patent for this gun.

11461: Serial number of the gun.

GG

Pirlot Frères

Pinfire rifle from Pirlot Frères.

Calibre 12 mm

Marked “Pirlot Frères breveté” and “48”

Loading/unloading is done by lifting the “guillotine” which also acts as a block on the rear of the ammunition.

Pirlot Frères

Revolver from Pirlot Frères of type Dean Adams & Dean

The hammer is without spur, which confirms the fact that it works in double action only.

Serial number: 20084. Caliber: .45

Barrel lenght: 7“. Overal lenght: 335 mm. Wight: 950 g

The front sight is laterally adjustable and the rear sight is fixed.

H.K.

Pirlot Frères

Pinfire pistol Pirlot

Calibre 12 mm

Pirlot Frères

Revolver 1874 Chamelot-Delvigne of the patent 1873 manufactured by Pirlot Frères

Calibre 11 mm (73)

PIRLOT Frères

This weapon carries only one partially unobtrusive mark where one can still read PIRLOT and LIEGE!

It is about firm PIRLOT FRERES street Saint Gilles, 95 in LIEGE.

This company was registered with the proofhouse of LIEGE of 1836 to 1879. It deposited 5 patents of 1864 to 1878.

It then joined to become PIRLOT and FRESART (BE 1879/1890) with the same address.

As for much of arms companies of Liège, the files (invoice book, list of customers, etc.) PIRLOT FRERES were not preserved so that we must be satisfied with the observation of the weapons preserved in the private museums or collections and the rare catalogues preserved.

In appendix, you will find a page of the catalog n° 15 of PIRLOT and FRESART presenting some long weapons that the firm manufactured at that time.

GG

PIRLOT Frères

Model 9 of Chamelot and Delvigne.

One knows that Chamelot & Delvigne made manufacture many of its weapons in Liege, here is a superb example with this model 9 manufactured by Pirlot Frères.

Photos Littlegun

PIRLOT Frères

A perfect copy (improved even by a safety of hammer !!) of a Sharp 1859.

Quadruple sliding barrels for the loading, striker rotary, bronze carcass engraved.

Many thanks to "IVES DEVOS" for the pictures

Photos Littlegun

PIRLOT Frères

The weapon

Revolver six shots pinfire of the Lefaucheux type to opened carcass, the handle is in the shape of pear and the trigger without trigger guard is folding.

The manufacturer

Mark PF in a crowned oval is that of PIRLOT Frères (see below) registered with the poof house of Liège of 1836 to 1879.The firm becomes PIRLOT and FRESART in 1879.

GG

Another similar revolver.

Pirlot Frères

Many thanks to "Zendy" for the photos.

Pirlot Frères

Pirlot Frères

LIEGE PERCUSSION NAVAL RAIL (WALL) GUN

POSSIBLE CONFEDERATE PURCHASE, CIRCA 1860. 35 lbs. In weight and with 32" octagonal round barrel with 1 5/8" bore. Lock signed "Pirlot Freres a Liege". Iron mounted and stock appears to be of oak. Well weathered. Shows signs of having seen long service at sea.

Pirlot Frères

model Abadie

Cal. 8mm

Pirlot Frères

Photos Littlegun

The same revolver

Photos Littlegun

Pirlot Frères

Copied by "Glisenti"

Low on the page, Glisenti of the years 1874- 1880: it is the Model of ordinance manufactured under licence Chamelot Delvigne for the Royal cavalry, the alternative (very rare) with short gun, by Pirlot Frères, Liége.

Alberto Riccadonna

Little history

Gustave Henri Delvigne (ex-officer of the French Army), prolific inventor, meets in 1861 J Chamelot (arms manufacturer at Fusnot in Brussels - is it Belgian?), they create the revolvers baptized "left-handed" (door of loading on the left) for cartridges with pin.

These revolvers are manufactured by the establishments Pirlot Frères in Liege (here we are). May 25, 1871, they deposit a patent for a revolver with central percussion which always Pirlot Frères manufactures.

The Belgian army orders of them some specimens by way of test.

In 1872, the Swiss army adopts it like lawful in 10,4 mm.

The same year, the kingdom of Italy makes in the same way with the gauge of 10,35 mm (10,4 kif-kif-kif). In 1873, with the tower of France under names Mle 1873 (troop) or Mle 1874 (officer) with the gauge 11 mm (makes some 11,4) (famous the 11 mm of our friend in Spirlet: to see file identification) or for the Royal one (Navy) in 1877 pennies the name Mle 1873 M in 12 mm.

And finally in an anecdotic way in 1884, Swedish navy.

Prestige flashes back on the Pirlot firm which will market also its weapons for the civil market and the officers and under reserve officers which traditionally buy their weapon. But they do not manage to satisfy all the requests and other firms inhabitants of Liège (Lepage Frères...) propose their own models (450 and 380).

Short "or" light "Mle presented one 1874" (shortening of the gun of Mle 1872), is Chamelot-Delvigne manufactured by Pirlot Frères.

Mle 1889 (first revolver to carry Glisenti name) – arms posterior which remains of Chamelot-Delvigne design, always with the gauge 10,35 mm (10,4) are thus a copy (improved and economic) of the weapons manufactured by PIRLOT Frères.

It was manufactured until in the years 1920 and was always in equipment in certain units into 40-45!!!

In short: not to confuse Mles Italian with Mles Swiss and French (octagonal guns and/or rounds - reinforcement of the hammer among Italian from which the form is different (it would be broader).

HPH

Comparison to Glisenti 1874 and Pirlot

Pirlot Glisenti

Technicals details Glisenti (same to Pirlot)

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