Some of the most beautiful work of this craftsman, and many others, are in this book “Liège Gunmakers through their Work. 1800 - 1950”.
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Here is a shotgun juxtaposed with hammers, with the opening key along the trigger guard. As shown by the punch with the bee, it is a production of the house of Liège Dresse-Laloux.
N and z under star: countermarks of controllers, since 1877;
ELG on star in oval: acceptance between 1846 and 1893;
17 4 and 17 8: calibre in mm, since 1889 (?). It should therefore be a 16 gauge, although 17 8 is closer to a 14 gauge which is 17. 9 mm. A 16 gauge cartridge should therefore be introduced. And above all not to shoot.....
Perron: inspection, since 1853.
GP with the help of PHL
Dresse Laloux & Cie
Here is a very interesting military single-shot rifle, apparently based on the Martini system, but with an external hammer. The hammer arms itself when the lever bridge is operated.
According to what is found on the canvas concerning this rifle, it could be a test rifle in the context of a competition to find a replacement for the Comblain rifle that had been adopted for the Garde Civique in 1870. We know that in the end, it was the 1882 Comblain that replaced him.
The barrel of the rifle Dresse-Laloux is in any case a true copy of that of the Comblain 1870.
One notices of course the marking Dresse Laloux & Cie Breveté Liège on the tail of the breech, as well as the mark on the stock J. Ancion & Cie 1878.
For more information on these companies, please consult the following links:
J. Ancion & Cie
Ancion & Cie
I have consulted the list of the 25 patents listed (some time ago) filed by Dresse-Laloux. The only interesting thing is patent 032202 of March 22, 1873, which concerns modifications to the extractors of firearms loaded by the breech.
Here is the drawing of the patent in question (thanks to MD):
The resemblance is quite striking.
It would also certainly be interesting to consult the review of the Garde Civique "Le Franc-tireur" and the "Revue militaire belge"; which appeared between 1880 and 1889. Perhaps reference was made to these tests to replace the 1870 Comblain.
In the Belgian Military Review, third quarter of 1880, about an exhibition held that year on the initiative of the Liège Union for the manufacture of weapons of war, is the catalogue of the weapons exhibited. Thus, on page 103 under No. 58 is a "rifle with bayonet sword" from Dresse-Laloux, and on the following page, a cavalry carabiner under No. 83, also from Dresse-Laloux. But no drawing unfortunately......
A member of the team found the patent of a rather similar weapon due to the combined genius of Malherbe and Salle: here is the patent 30263 of March 21, 1872:
And here is the weapon in question, which is in the collection of the Count de Ribaucourt of the War Heritage Institute. There's certainly an air of resemblance, but alas, I don't think it's the same weapon:
MALHERBE & SALLE
It is in any case very astonishing that there is NO punch (visible) of the proofhouse of Liege NOR of the Manufacture d'Armes de l'Etat, organs by which all the weapons intended for the Belgian armed forces obligatorily passed. Maybe there's some under the barrel?
Finally, it should be noted that there is a Dresse-Laloux mechanism at the War Heritage Institute that has not been installed. We should be able to compare.
GP with the help of HPH, MAX, AD and Paul Dubrunfaut from WHI.
Dresse Laloux & Cie
Here is a very classic garden rifle of caliber .410, system called Warnant, manufactured by Dresse-Laloux.
EL: provisional test since 1852
J and m under star: countermarks of controllers, between 1877 and 1968
Peron: inspection since 1853
10. 2: diameter in mm, probably from. 410/12 mm. To be checked by the happy owner.
I am surprised not to see the ELG on star in oval, crowned or not.
According to the "Who's who of the Liège armoury" the Former Fabrique Dresse-Laloux was registered with the proofhouse between 1867 and 1908.
In 1862, the company took over the activities of Ancion et Cie (Proofhouse 1842/1862) and the Fabriques d'Armes de Liège (proofhouse 1837/1862).
In 1867, Ancion withdrew and continued its own activity.
In 1908, the activity was taken over by Etablissements Laloux Georges.
It should be noted that Dresse-Laloux filed no less than 24 patents and the trademark Imperial Gun C° on November 22, 1892.
GP and MD.
Dresse Laloux & Cie
Revolver with central percussion and box frame.
The cylinder is smooth but the photographs don’t show the number of rooms nor the gauge?
The barrel is with 6 sides. The rod is used as axis with the barrel.
I am unaware of the use of the offset wrench placed on the left side in front of the barrel bus without photographs of the partially dismounted weapon difficult to have an idea.
The loading is practiced by a swivelling door placed on the right side behind the barrel.
The plates out of squared wooden are connected by a transverse screw and two rivet washers.
The weapon carries the punches of tests of the proofhouse of Liege, namely:
ELG on star in a vertical oval: final acceptance, of use of 1846 to 1893.
G crowned: countermark of the controller, of use of 1853 to 1877.
Bee carrying letters DL on the wings: mark of factory of company DRESSE-LALOUX & Co, street on the Fountain, 47 in LIEGE. Mark deposited the 28.01.1881. Were these trademarks to be confirmed each year (taxes?) the date above is probably the date of origination.
LORON + letters illegible: it is probably about the mark of the inventor of the weapon which will have made manufacture a series of revolver at DRESSE-LALOUX not having itself the industrial capacity to manufacture some in a significant number? There were several LORON of which PIERRE-ANTOINE, HENRI-CALISTE and PAUL-LEON, I am unaware of which am concerned for the present weapon.
I examined the patents of Pierre-Antoine without discovering corresponding patent.
Idem at DRESSE-LALOUX!
The crowned square mark is illegible! I then thus to try to identify it!
The BIRMINGHAM mention was probably brought subsequently for commercial reasons.
In appendix: a publicity DRESSE-LALOUX.
Ets Dresse Laloux et Cie
Ets Dresse Laloux et Cie
Taken again by George Laloux, Rue des Urbanistes, 3 in Liege
Model Smith & Wesson
This weapon is a shotgun to unrifled bores, juxtaposed, with external hammers and opening seem to me does (photo rather dark) by key snake?
The stick of drowning is of gun type.
It carries the specific punches of the proof house ofLiege, that is to say:
Spangled ELG in an oval: final acceptance -1846/1893
Peron: inspection - 1853/our days.
EL in cursive letters: provisional test - 1852/our days.
R and X spangled: countermarks of the controllers - 1877 /1968
Marks DRESSE LALOUX A LIEGE: without comment.
crowned DL: it acts of the mark of the factory DRESSE LALOUX street On the Fountain, 47 in Liege and registered with the proof house of Liège of 1867 to 1908.
According to the punches, this weapon was manufactured between 1877 and 1893.
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